Louie Giglio’s Laminin
I have been introduced to an evangelist named Louie Giglio recently (thanks to my stepsister).
This talk is not cutting edge or current, but it does reveal some interesting side effects of human nature.
The talk is a sort of science-evangelism. It’s wonderful that Louie appreciates science, but don’t think that his approach is quite … pristine for lack of a better word … for the non-religious.
Here’s his talk in a few short sentences (without the melodic keyboards in the background):
1) Our universe is big. Look at these huge stars!
2) Here’s a black hole that looks like a cross via hubble! (applause)
3) Here’s a protein (laminin) that looks like a cross … it holds our cells together! (applause)
I really would like to believe that my skepticism hasn’t run off uncontrollably, but I look at a room full of people who really want to believe in something awesome, and I feel the energy of it, and I feel moved by it, and I feel completely separate from it.
I think, wow, you found two things in the whole wide universe that look like an X. Two intersecting lines.
Louie describes this protein, laminin, as his knockout blow… a hook jab that he’s exceptionally proud of.
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For the video (and comments) from youtube:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xg_ZVS6Kecw&feature=related
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One of my favorite comments to the video:
“Praise God for this video! Only true believers can fully understand this message.
God bless you Mr. Giglio and other true servants of God! ”
And another:
“WOW I was totally blown away……thats absolutely awesome! My 2 teenage kids were completely impressed! Thank you for sharing that with us! God bless you!”
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My mind jumped to a seemingly unrelated email I recieved a few months ago by Athen (my step mom)
http://www.foldmoney.com/
This shows how you can fold money and make images that look kind of like historical events.
These images are more complex that a simple intersection of two lines. They look like the twin towers. But despite the more intricate complexity involved in their making, I feel that most Christians will have an easier time being skeptical of the significance here.
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Pattern recognition is a wonderful thing. It really is. It’s good that we can see faces in the clouds, etc.
It really is.
But why is this being used as a basis for faith. Yes, the universe is big. Yes, there are lots of things shaped like two intersecting lines (a cross)
But, I can’t help but feel like I belong to a whole different species when I see people who interpret folded money as fore-tellings of apocalyptic events, or the structure of proteins (as diagrammed in science text books) as sources of reaffirmation of beliefs and convictions.
Here’s the rub though: Our brain tends to latch on to things we feel are significant and toss out the rest.
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I have met a few men of faith who draw their faith through prayer and research into the Bible. Among them are my father and a brilliant preacher named Butch Simmons.
I cannot understand how people get so much inspiration from things shaped vaguely like a cross, however. There is a universe of shapes out there. If we put any special kind of significance on the capital letter ‘V’ these people would hold flocks of geese in the highest of spiritual regard.
I am just completely baffled how to process this. I don’t understand why I was given this video. I don’t understand its positive commentary. Maybe I am missing the part of me that takes this sort of thing as evidence. Maybe a degree in philosophy has bred in me an extra thing (skepticism) which most people lack.
But then people are skeptical of things like aliens. So, maybe it’s not even skepticism at work.
I’ll sleep on this.

July 27th, 2008 17:56
Don’t forget about seeing Jesus or Mary in the grilled cheese.
Here’s a clip from Anthony Bloom’s “Beginning to Pray” book: “The moment we put a visible sign in front of ourselves, whether it be a crucifix, a tabernacle, an icon or an invisible image–God as we imagine Him, or Christ as we have seen Him in paintings–and we focus our attention on that, then we have placed a barrier between ourselves and God, because we take the image which we have formed for the person to whom we address our prayer…We must stand before God without trying to give Him a shape or to imprison Him in concepts and images…”
I mean, seeing God’s handiwork in nature is one thing, and it’s okay to a certain point to use symbolism and to notice shapes, but I think some people REALLY lose the real point and get too caught up in the shapes and the signs and the “spiritual coincidences.” Take it this way: I think it’s just a coincidence, and not a secret code or anything, that in Romans 16:21 you can find both the name of the Harry Potter character Jason plays AND his own first name right next to each other. Whoooaa. Not. (I discovered this by accident because I happened to look down and think “I didn’t know this was in the Bible.”)
by the way…
Romans 16:21 (ESV http://www.gnpcb.org/esv/search/?q=Romans+16%3A21&src=esv.org)
Timothy, my fellow worker, greets you; so do Lucius and Jason and Sosipater, my kinsmen.
July 30th, 2008 18:50
Okay, I just finished watching/listening to the Giglio video. He did really well up until around 2:45 and even a little bit after that. It started to go downhill, though.
He would’ve made a much better point, though, if he had stuck with God holding you together because of how carefully He designed cells to have specific functions even in microscopic proportions, instead of getting all worked up over the shape of the cell. It sounded more like his point was the cross shape than the complexity of how God made living organisms, and that he completely forgot that God made such intricately detailed cellular operations.
He needs to take a page from St. Patrick’s legendary explanation of the Trinity with the use of a shamrock. That made a lot more sense that what I heard from that video.
June 29th, 2010 13:38
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